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2013-12-26

Repairing Guitar (Set-up)


20131219
A guitar came into my shop for repair.
The owner complained of buzzing.
After checking it didn't really buzz that much unless you played very hard.
But I did notice the string height was very high
The tuner was not install properly too.
So after a brief examination I told the owner I would be redoing the tuner and lower the action.

Today after checking the string height it's a whopping 14mm.
This is way too high.
The action at 12th fret is 4.5mm
If I lower the action I think it would be just nice.

As I removed the strings I notice the tuner were stuck!
After finally removing the strings and the screws for the tuenr
I noticed that the tuner holes were too tight.
This need to be widen a bit to allow smoother turning of the worm gears.

I will be checking the frets and geometry next but due to lack of time I had to leave it for the next session.



The guitar which was in my shop for repair


The string height is 14mm


Removing the tuner


20131224
2 talented young guitarist gave me a visit at my workshop.
One came for a quick set up, which I help to lower the action.
The guitar was by Esteve, but I can only lower the treble to about 3.5mm as the isn't much bone left in the saddle.
The neck angle was wrong for the guitar.
Any lower either the bridge's saddle block has to be shaved down or the fingerboard adjusted at the nut region which means the frets has to be removed.
That will be more serious repair work.

The other guitar by Aparicio has a single protruding fret when I tried.
So it buzzed at one of the high frets which I think is C# or D note on 1st string (I forgot which note).
So I just file it lower and recrown it.
I gave the other frets a rub on the steel wool to restore the shine.

After the repair / set-up work, I showed them the various tone woods and explain a bit of how I build guitars
All in all it was an enjoyable time.

Now back to repair.
I opened up the tuner holes with my dremel, manual sanding will take up too much time.
I tried the tuners and now they can be turne properly.
After some lubrication they should be as smooth as butter.

Then I did the set-up, marking the saddle with the correct action and plane down the saddle blank to the marking.
When I tried playing I notice more buzzes on the 1st string and 6th string.
Then I check the fret and realised the fret works was badly done.
In the end I spend quite some time leveling the frets and re-crowning them.
They played better but still not perfect.
It can only properly if I take out all the frets and level the fingerboard properly.
But the repair cost would properly cost more than the guitar itself so this will suffice.

Once I fill in the screw holes for the tuner and re-drill the pilot holes the guitar will be ready.



Opening up the tuner holes with dremel


Now it can turn properly


Marking the correct saddle height with the correct action at 12th fret.


A zoom-out view showing how the action is determined. The Aluminium bar is 3mm and the scraper at nut is 1mm.


Saddle marked for waste removal.


Planing the saddle. I find it faster than sanding.


Checking the action.


Recrowning the frets


Checking the fret levelness


Sanding level the frets - the fret work is badly done with many protruding frets in the higher region above 12th frets.


20131226
Finally I glue up the original screw holes and drill a new pilot hole of 1 mm.
After putting in the tuner I screw in the holding screw.
I tighten up the strings to try and with normal (not heavy) plucking the string doesn't buzz.
Hard plucking will be different story though.
Anyway it should be done once I adjust the intonation and polish up the saddle a little.

I adjusted the intonation and tried out the guitar.
Under normal playing it won't buzz that much.
The higher frets proved to be a little problem.
Well it can only remedied fully if I pull out all the frets and level the fingerboard accordingly.
For now, this will do fine.



Fill up the original screw hole


Screwing in the screw after drilling the 1mm pilot hole


The guitar almost done


The bridge adjusted for intonation and smoothen to a shine. Guitar is ready.

2012-04-23

Setup the guitar (Nut and saddle)

Next to do is actually fretting and setting up the guitar.
But I wanted to string it up before deciding what to do with the relief.
So I sand the bridge and saddle to fit the slot 1st.
Sanding is a hard job...

Then I hammer in 2 frets at 1st fret and 12th fret and mark the position of the saddle with the appropriate action at 12th fret; bass side and treble side.
Anyway this is rough set up.
I saw the saddle near to the line.

I also marked the string spacing at nut; 5mm from the edge at both sides and 8.5mm between the strings.
I file the slots and now all I need to do is to wait for putting on the string.

The setup to measure the saddle height.

Mark using a 1/2 pencil. I plane the carpenter pencil down to the lead core.

Draw the line joining the bass side and treble side

Saw near the line.

Nut end, positions marked

After all the frets are done, I go on to lower down the saddle.
If the string is not seated properly in the nut end, there will be a distinct and annoying buzz.
Once the nut slot is filed and the string seated into the slot, the buzz will disappear.

Previously I had already marked the saddle.
So I just go on and lower it.
Then I measure the action at 12th fret. THe treble is 3.5mm and bass about 4.5mm
I played it sounded quite nice.
I suppose I could lower the treble a bit more but I will leave at for the moment.

After I move back saddle front edge for the 2nd and 3rd string and 5th and 6th to compensate for the intonation.
This is done by making sure the 12th fret harmonics sounds the same as the 12th fret note.

Filing of the slant in the saddle.
Close up. It's abit hard to see the slanted that was filed into the saddle.